tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-227398926429590289.post7958648148199845455..comments2023-03-26T03:40:57.200-04:00Comments on Castain's Sales Playbook: Have Linkedin Groups Lost Their Appeal?Paul Castainhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10867810438000233934noreply@blogger.comBlogger36125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-227398926429590289.post-85177386514955190282009-11-18T12:09:35.858-05:002009-11-18T12:09:35.858-05:00Very timely...as we continue to evaluate best prac...Very timely...as we continue to evaluate best practices, want to ensure to stay in compliance with the original purpose of discussions -- which is to have a discussion.<br /><br />Thanks,George Williamshttp://www.linkedin.com/in/georgewilliamsclenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-227398926429590289.post-73871332497190486792009-11-11T17:17:28.822-05:002009-11-11T17:17:28.822-05:00@Todd French:
Thanks Todd that was very nice of y...@Todd French:<br /><br />Thanks Todd that was very nice of you to say that.<br /><br />I hope our group continues to prove the point that its the sense of "community" that makes the group. The fact that members like you Todd, continually contribute content and avoid the infomercials makes the community superior in my very biased opinion.<br /><br />As for thanking me for my work, no Paul Castainhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10867810438000233934noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-227398926429590289.post-41922423781968295152009-11-11T17:09:03.773-05:002009-11-11T17:09:03.773-05:00Paul,
Your group is one in a million compared to ...Paul, <br />Your group is one in a million compared to most. Everything in its place and valuable content all the time. This is probably one of the few groups where you see responses to discussions, but not just responses but most of the time valuable information. See above posts for examples. <br /><br />Your group is by far the leader in intelligent and relevant information to its group Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-227398926429590289.post-72543944233107407322009-11-11T16:30:18.664-05:002009-11-11T16:30:18.664-05:00@Jason: Much appreciated my friend!
Hope you are ...@Jason: Much appreciated my friend!<br /><br />Hope you are having a great week!<br /><br />Respectfully,<br />Paul CastainPaul Castainhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10867810438000233934noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-227398926429590289.post-86789013030974593072009-11-11T12:30:44.578-05:002009-11-11T12:30:44.578-05:00At the risk of not contributing anything valuable ...At the risk of not contributing anything valuable here, let me add my voice to the chorus of "Amen"s....Jason M. Hallmarkhttp://jasonhallmark.nmfn.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-227398926429590289.post-41038284218905633512009-11-10T15:23:14.059-05:002009-11-10T15:23:14.059-05:00@Anonymous: You have a valid point and its unfortu...@Anonymous: You have a valid point and its unfortunate.<br /><br />I wouldn't give up just yet. That's what I did at one point and it didn't sit well with me. Deep down I knew I didn't give it my all!<br /><br />I'm glad I decided to give it another shot and hope you will too!<br /><br />Respectfully,<br />Paul CastainPaul Castainhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10867810438000233934noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-227398926429590289.post-43519985650748120242009-11-10T15:19:13.638-05:002009-11-10T15:19:13.638-05:00@Paul Simon: I read the Never Eat Alone book just ...@Paul Simon: I read the Never Eat Alone book just as I made my decision to really get my arms around this crazy world of online networking. I consider it a must read and had numerous take aways.<br /><br />Thanks for contributing and mentioning two fantastic books for our sales playbook community!<br /><br />Respectfully,<br />Paul CastainPaul Castainhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10867810438000233934noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-227398926429590289.post-37750103134095349652009-11-10T15:16:18.681-05:002009-11-10T15:16:18.681-05:00@ John Polvino:
I do want to apologize to you if ...@ John Polvino:<br /><br />I do want to apologize to you if you felt that offering things all parties could do to fix a bad situation was whining and as far as "cowboying up" grow some balls and take your matter up with the CGX rep. Not sure what that has to do with me? By that same logic, should I hold one of your reps accountable because I felt you were rude and could have easily shotPaul Castainhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10867810438000233934noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-227398926429590289.post-60709194211052771942009-11-10T14:12:12.560-05:002009-11-10T14:12:12.560-05:00OK- my ADD kicked in and I'm cerain I've m...OK- my ADD kicked in and I'm cerain I've missed some really salient points here from all concerned. My question is this- are you folks kidding?? Who gets to have the title master networker or whatever the heck it's called. Who died and left them LinkedIn police? I had a Consolodated Sales Rep reprimand me for being "spammy"- a sales rep who has had 9-10 jobs for my one- butJohn Polvinohttp://www.commercialprint.netnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-227398926429590289.post-7065743259328645032009-11-10T13:17:31.375-05:002009-11-10T13:17:31.375-05:00I have become so tired of Linked-in and other soci...I have become so tired of Linked-in and other social media sites that I have decided to jump off. I wish someone would clean it up because I truelly believe in the concept. But who has the time to wade through all the nonsense to get to the substance.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-227398926429590289.post-29223116500244891022009-11-10T12:12:50.739-05:002009-11-10T12:12:50.739-05:00Keith Ferrazzi's underlying point in "Nev...Keith Ferrazzi's underlying point in "Never Eat Alone" and "Who's Got Your Back" clearly is what goes around, come's around. Building relationships isn't an instant gratification thing in that you don't necessarily get an immediate tangible return. So it is with LinkedIn groups. Those willing to share, communicate and listen can create warm relationships Paul Simonhttp://www.sharpercontent.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-227398926429590289.post-30833236340787408902009-11-10T11:50:21.406-05:002009-11-10T11:50:21.406-05:00I have analyzed the membership of some of the prof...I have analyzed the membership of some of the professional business-oriented groups that I belong to. I found that the overwhelming majority of members were people in a sales or marketing capacity with a clear interest in selling to each respective vertical.<br /><br />I have had a hard time finding people in LinkedIn groups who are actually the intended members of that group. <br /><br />imo, Paul Harrishttp://www.srelations.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-227398926429590289.post-77112799825170578602009-11-10T11:40:58.339-05:002009-11-10T11:40:58.339-05:00@ Paul: Agreed!
Thanks for contributing your thou...@ Paul: Agreed!<br /><br />Thanks for contributing your thoughts!<br /><br />Respectfully,<br />Paul CastainPaul Castainhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10867810438000233934noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-227398926429590289.post-17291204520665582862009-11-10T11:16:31.855-05:002009-11-10T11:16:31.855-05:00I agree with the "fries with 'spamwich...I agree with the "fries with 'spamwich'" comment wholeheartedly. My experience with LinkedIn Groups has been very positive. Posting questions and getting 411 from many others is very, very valuable to me. I also routinely post my blog posts as News and find a lot of good response to that. In the end, communication is a good thing and it will always be unfortunate that Paul H. Burtonhttp://www.quietspacing.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-227398926429590289.post-83750691768183741352009-11-10T04:17:24.391-05:002009-11-10T04:17:24.391-05:00Dear Paul
I appreciate this note and I have thoug...Dear Paul<br /><br />I appreciate this note and I have thought about it a lot. <br /><br />Based on your insights I have put up some rules for engagement regarding our group on XING<br /><br />https://www.xing.com/net/smmetrics<br /><br />So far it has not been a problem on our group but I wanted to stop this trend before it might become a problem.<br /><br />But this makes it also tougher for Urs E. Gattiker - ComMetricshttp://howto.commetrics.com/articles/best-blogs/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-227398926429590289.post-4856706085452010872009-11-09T22:13:47.559-05:002009-11-09T22:13:47.559-05:00@Paul Simon: AMEN! That is a major pet peeve of mi...@Paul Simon: AMEN! That is a major pet peeve of mine too.<br /><br />FYI: There was this guy who posted a thread on like 6 groups. He gets a great response on most of them only to reveal his hand at the end to tell everyone that he is selling a service that can help everyone sell better.<br /><br />We removed him from our group as many members were insulted by his approach.<br /><br />The funny Paul Castainhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10867810438000233934noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-227398926429590289.post-86076137059028342512009-11-09T21:50:00.987-05:002009-11-09T21:50:00.987-05:00For me, discussions provide a variety of opportuni...For me, discussions provide a variety of opportunities. The regular emails from my various groups provide the chance for quick scans for conversations that interest me, and frequently I learn things. Second, I've been impressed enough with some posts to make new connections and pursue a few strategic alliances. Third, I occasionally point out a particular discussion to one of the many sales Paul Simonhttp://www.sharpercontent.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-227398926429590289.post-75975439757507399382009-11-09T20:17:47.287-05:002009-11-09T20:17:47.287-05:00@ Hank: Fantastic point and something I've bee...@ Hank: Fantastic point and something I've been thinking about quite a bit lately.<br /><br />On one hand, I'm very pleased with the community we have now in the sales playbook group. We have a high level of contribution from our members and it seems to be getting more so each day. On the other hand, I enjoy the fact that we continually add new people with different perspectives and Paul Castainhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10867810438000233934noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-227398926429590289.post-12285980029500358642009-11-09T19:53:12.579-05:002009-11-09T19:53:12.579-05:00One of the problems with the discussions is that t...One of the problems with the discussions is that there is so damned much discussion it's nearly impossible to get a discussion in edgewise.<br /><br />I like your rules and think they are fair and even-handedly enforced. It's a tough and thankless job and I'm glad you're doing it.<br /><br />I'm personally thinking that numbers in a group are overrated. A smaller group with Hank Trislerhttp://www.nobullselling.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-227398926429590289.post-41645634808816094062009-11-09T18:57:09.067-05:002009-11-09T18:57:09.067-05:00@ Al Lewek: The short answer is at the right time ...@ Al Lewek: The short answer is at the right time and place.<br /><br />The best way to do that involves a strategy. I'm happy to discuss this with you offline as it would entail a long answer that is better discussed.<br /><br />Additionally you could read and follow people like Chris Brogan who wrote a fantastic book on this subject called Trust Agents!<br /><br />Thanks for contributing!<Paul Castainhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10867810438000233934noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-227398926429590289.post-9794766838547825772009-11-09T18:49:45.431-05:002009-11-09T18:49:45.431-05:00@Anonymous: Posting articles and links to blog pos...@Anonymous: Posting articles and links to blog posts in the news section is the proper way to post in Linkedin. That's where everyone posts their links and links to other resources as well.<br /><br />Not sure I agree with you especially since I don't sell anything here nor can take on any projects due to agreement with CGX but I do respect your perspective.<br /><br />Respectfully,<br />Paul Castainhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10867810438000233934noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-227398926429590289.post-36558443257656820362009-11-09T18:45:57.330-05:002009-11-09T18:45:57.330-05:00So linkedin is the business booty call?So linkedin is the business booty call?Bizdevsensainoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-227398926429590289.post-61042593452352690352009-11-09T18:41:53.497-05:002009-11-09T18:41:53.497-05:00@Sean and Lisa: Thank you for your comments!
Lisa...@Sean and Lisa: Thank you for your comments!<br /><br />Lisa: I've been there. Believe me :)<br /><br />Mikey: I agree. So they basically figure "I want to self promote so why not let the others have at it too" <br /><br />To your point about the Sales Playbook having some lofty rules . . . Guilty! As far as the occasional spammer getting through our defenses; we kill 99% of all BS Paul Castainhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10867810438000233934noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-227398926429590289.post-35766822530519001502009-11-09T18:33:51.889-05:002009-11-09T18:33:51.889-05:00@Tony Smith Your points are certainly valid. My tw...@Tony Smith Your points are certainly valid. My two immediate thoughts are:<br /><br />1) I can't imagine someone who is in a position to buy a product or service, who receives God only knows how many calls and emails from people trying to sell them all day long, saying "Hmm, let me check out who I can buy from in a Linkedin discussion group" Even still, maybe there are Tony.<br /><Paul Castainhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10867810438000233934noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-227398926429590289.post-23108750289499649092009-11-09T18:28:36.654-05:002009-11-09T18:28:36.654-05:00I'm still fairly new to Linkedin. Ive spent m...I'm still fairly new to Linkedin. Ive spent most of the last couple of months working on my profile and adding connections. Just what do I have to do to realize any business from all of this. If I cannot tell others what I do or that I can do it better than my competition, how does a connection know to do business with me. I realize that blatant advertising is a no-no, but who else will al lewekhttp://lewekphotos.comnoreply@blogger.com